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Post by shaftell on Aug 2, 2016 20:35:44 GMT -8
So...might as well carry over the tradition of inane speculation. We've seen numerous people move on from Bioware prior to the disconcerting decision to close down the forums. One of their biggest supporters Ash, aka Lady Insanity will no longer be doing Bioware content. Where does it say Lady Insanity isn't doing Bioware content anymore?
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Post by helios969 on Aug 3, 2016 0:22:17 GMT -8
So...might as well carry over the tradition of inane speculation. We've seen numerous people move on from Bioware prior to the disconcerting decision to close down the forums. One of their biggest supporters Ash, aka Lady Insanity will no longer be doing Bioware content. Where does it say Lady Insanity isn't doing Bioware content anymore? Watch her video explaining her decision and tell me. If you take it at face value then it's about being burned out and not placing all her eggs in one basket, but I find the timing a bit coincidental. Looking at her body language and considering the main topic she was discussing regarding copyright strikes, I cannot help but wonder if she was warned by someone in Bioware's legal department. This is me reading tea leaves, and I freely admit I could be off base. She loves Bioware games and she looked as though she had her heart ripped out. Maybe it is just coincidence.
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Post by monk on Aug 3, 2016 6:27:28 GMT -8
And as someone pointed out on the soon-to-be-annulled forum, the real irony would be if MEA turns out to be awesome, and there's no official forum for people to sing its praises. I like for the game to be great. I believe it will do well. Time will answer that. If they're going to open a new forum just for the game, they have plenty of time. Of course a lot folks who were on bsn may not join worried that Bioware will shut it down like they are with the current one. Or not join just to spite them. Of course this forum and the other one that is similiar, will have numerous threads that will say if the game is great or not. So Bioware has no reason to create a forum for MEA I kinda hope they don't create a new general forum like before. Tech support aside, there's been minimal interest on their part for maintaining the community. Just reading through the previous wave of discontent, if accurate, makes it seem pretty obvious their interest has been waning over the years. Difficult to say if it's funding or cost-benefit that's the culprit but it might be for the best for everyone if they don't open anything beyond support.
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Aug 3, 2016 6:29:22 GMT -8
I think it was a dumb decision to close the boards but I don't think it had anything to do with the company failing. If anything it suggests to me that things are becoming more corporate and more closed off to fan/customer feedback. Now that is problematic to me and suggests problems down the road for the company with how it's consumers relate to it. I think DAI was successful for them and I also think MEA will sell a lot of units out of the gate and make money (even if it is critically and fanbase panned).
I think the real reason the boards were shut down were what they said and it's also been obvious that they think their fans on that board were a bitchy pain in the ass. I mean Gaider gave some interview a few years ago where he pretty much derided his, then, company's own forum! Personally I felt there was a lot to be gained from that forum and some genuinely good feedback there for developers and then there also was the bitchy pain in the ass segment and I guess I know which noise they couldn't tune out.
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Post by The Redhead Commander on Aug 3, 2016 6:41:04 GMT -8
All this news is making me worried about the future of Mass Effect.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 3, 2016 8:04:05 GMT -8
All this news is making me worried about the future of Mass Effect. If MEA does poorly, of course that depends on how poorly, it could be the end of ME. I don't believe MEA will do poorly. I believe it will do well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 8:13:54 GMT -8
I may be wrong,but I'd be willing to bet they open an official game site for ME:A
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 9:36:27 GMT -8
^ If the game gets universally praised, then there's a chance.
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Post by cyberstrike on Aug 3, 2016 10:25:51 GMT -8
Quoting Hanlon: '"Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice" I think the holding back of information is simply down to EA marketing not wanting the releases of Battlefield 1 and Titanfall 2 to be interfered with (Oct 21 and 28 respectively). I'm not worried about people leaving (that happens) and information withheld (for the other releases). More foolish is the abandonment of the BSN. They may view it as a toxic source, but it's a poor marketing call. I don't think it's a conspiracy suggesting the game is pants, just marketing not having to worry about 'BSN at its worst'. Honestly I don't think the old BSN was as toxic as many people think. Even at the height of the ME3 endings controversy it was never as toxic as say the Escapist was at the height of the GG debacle now that was toxic. I think it was more apathy that was really the problem. I'm not saying that people don't have concerns and problems, but there were times when people would try to be more positive that they would shouted down as mindless BIo-Drones just for being excited about ME:A.
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Post by melca36 on Aug 3, 2016 15:38:29 GMT -8
I think it was a dumb decision to close the boards but I don't think it had anything to do with the company failing. If anything it suggests to me that things are becoming more corporate and more closed off to fan/customer feedback. Now that is problematic to me and suggests problems down the road for the company with how it's consumers relate to it. I think DAI was successful for them and I also think MEA will sell a lot of units out of the gate and make money (even if it is critically and fanbase panned). I think the real reason the boards were shut down were what they said and it's also been obvious that they think their fans on that board were a bitchy pain in the ass. I mean Gaider gave some interview a few years ago where he pretty much derided his, then, company's own forum! Personally I felt there was a lot to be gained from that forum and some genuinely good feedback there for developers and then there also was the bitchy pain in the ass segment and I guess I know which noise they couldn't tune out. For every valid issue there were people trolling and complaining just for the sake of it. And God Forbid...people were not allowed to even post if they enjoyed Inquisition. The fact is there are alot of spoiled entitled people who think BioWare owes them something. Where there things I wanted in Inquisition but didnt get? YES. But I am not going to act like BioWare is the devil just for not getting what I wanted.
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Post by sleepy on Aug 3, 2016 20:17:29 GMT -8
Why are "spoiled", "entitled" and "whine" the go to words when people want to demonize the fan base and paint Bioware to be some kind of abused spouse?
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Post by melca36 on Aug 3, 2016 22:54:23 GMT -8
Why are "spoiled", "entitled" and "whine" the go to words when people want to demonize the fan base and paint Bioware to be some kind of abused spouse? There is constructive criticism but some people went beyond that point and I'm sorry I was not raised that way. I'm not going to threaten and attack people just for not getting what I want. And if you think I am demonizing the fan base I'm not. There are some fantastic people in this fandom but there are also a great many bullies. The developers may have made some mistakes but they DID NOT deserve the abuse and do not deserve the abuse they still get.
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Post by sleepy on Aug 4, 2016 0:42:44 GMT -8
Why are "spoiled", "entitled" and "whine" the go to words when people want to demonize the fan base and paint Bioware to be some kind of abused spouse? There is constructive criticism but some people went beyond that point and I'm sorry I was not raised that way. I'm not going to threaten and attack people just for not getting what I want. And if you think I am demonizing the fan base I'm not. There are some fantastic people in this fandom but there are also a great many bullies. The developers may have made some mistakes but they DID NOT deserve the abuse and do not deserve the abuse they still get. Thing is, there radical attacks that went on around 2012 were done by a select few but it seems like the entire fanbase takes the blame for it now. Most people just asked for a better ending to an admittedly bad and unpolished ending. Which isn't unreasonable. By the time the EC was released most fans had either been satisfied or were tired of campaigning. But by then the damage had been done. Multiple snide and sneaky remarks from Bioware towards to fanbase and the more radical fans flat out attacking staff destroyed the relationship between company/customer. If the relationship isn't being repaired its not for lack of trying on the fandoms part.
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Post by melca36 on Aug 4, 2016 2:20:05 GMT -8
For those concerned about Lady Insanity...check her twitter. Its stated right there she's on a break. twitter.com/ladyinsanity
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Post by helios969 on Aug 4, 2016 2:36:30 GMT -8
All this news is making me worried about the future of Mass Effect. If MEA does poorly, of course that depends on how poorly, it could be the end of ME. I don't believe MEA will do poorly. I believe it will do well. Agreed. Despite my own reservations and recent disappointment in DAI, with major games like this coming every 3-5 years they have a whole new wave of gamers to latch onto, so regardless whether past fans moved on from Bioware en masse, newbs will offset any losses. This is partly why they haven't had a title with huge financial success (on the scale of TW3 & Skyrim) because they constantly take 3 steps forward and 2 back...a decade ago I would have projected Bioware to be what CDPR has morphed into. It's disappointing it hasn't worked out that way. I don't think Bioware's going anywhere unless EA does something drastic, but that seems unlikely since they are still profitable...just not as much as other RPG devs.
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