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Post by steppenwolf on Jul 31, 2016 16:57:53 GMT -8
I'm with Heimdall. I think that they are going to get more exposure, more helpful critiques, more praise from other various social networking platforms they they ever will with us. How? Twitter is no place for constructive feedback. Neither is Tumblr. And the Mass Effect subreddit is just an image dump for cosplay and merch collections.
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Post by melca36 on Jul 31, 2016 17:19:38 GMT -8
I'm with Heimdall. I think that they are going to get more exposure, more helpful critiques, more praise from other various social networking platforms they they ever will with us. How? Twitter is no place for constructive feedback. Neither is Tumblr. And the Mass Effect subreddit is just an image dump for cosplay and merch collections. Actually theres alot of content at Reddit. The fact remains times have changed its 2016 and not 2009. Social Media has changed everything. I also have a feeling they will release a forum for Andromeda. The forums are a mere shadow of what they were and are basically a toxic cesspool. For every valid complaint, there was just hate/negativity for the sake of it. Times have changed. The climate has changed. It happens. But that said I think its going overboard predicting BioWare's End. They're polishing Andromeda, They have that new IP. And there have been hints that DA4 is in development.
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Post by monk on Aug 1, 2016 7:55:54 GMT -8
How? Twitter is no place for constructive feedback. Neither is Tumblr. And the Mass Effect subreddit is just an image dump for cosplay and merch collections. Actually theres alot of content at Reddit. The fact remains times have changed its 2016 and not 2009. Social Media has changed everything. I also have a feeling they will release a forum for Andromeda. The forums are a mere shadow of what they were and are basically a toxic cesspool. For every valid complaint, there was just hate/negativity for the sake of it. Times have changed. The climate has changed. It happens. But that said I think its going overboard predicting BioWare's End. They're polishing Andromeda, They have that new IP. And there have been hints that DA4 is in development. I wouldn't say it's an end by any means myself. I think with the forums changing it cements the fact that BioWare is a division of EA and not separate entity being financied by EA. Regardless, i look forward to what they bring and expect only the best from them.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 1, 2016 8:16:23 GMT -8
Actually theres alot of content at Reddit. The few times I've been on that site looking up information about whatever wasn't very helpful It may of changed, but it doesn't change the fact that BSN is the central location for getting information and answers about their games. Only time will answer that That can be blamed on Bioware and the mods for not keeping the peace Adapt and overcome. I wouldn't say its the end of Bioware. If MEA does poorly, it might be the end of ME. I'm looking forward to hearing what the new IP will be I wouldn't be surprised if the next DA game is already started and the team is keeping tight-lipped about it so not to take any attention away from MEA
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 8:50:25 GMT -8
I'm with Heimdall. I think that they are going to get more exposure, more helpful critiques, more praise from other various social networking platforms they they ever will with us. How? Twitter is no place for constructive feedback. Neither is Tumblr. And the Mass Effect subreddit is just an image dump for cosplay and merch collections. I actually believe that Direct Messages (something on Twitter) can be longer than 144 characters. So someone tweets them, "Hey, your game sucks." They can send a DM asking them why. They don't have to hear about how much their game sucks four years after it's been released. In fact, by response number ten if they don't have it then, they'll never get it. Or better yet, "Tell us why our game sucks and what we can do to improve it, DM open." Reddit, I dunno if I've found just an entire buttload of ME subreddits, but there were a ton of them. I don't have that kind'a time to go through them all. That's one reason why I don't like reddit as a platform. You've gotta hit the place you think will be the most effective, time after time after time again until it finally is effective. EDIT : I actually don't know about the entire twitter thing, as I've never used DM's in the past. I just use twitter to follow porn stars and get free porn.
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Post by guanxi on Aug 1, 2016 10:28:41 GMT -8
The first function of any forums is technical customer support. They are a crucial link in the construction of patches and for multiplayer balancing. You can't provide customer support from twitter. Imagine having to post critical bug reports to reddit amid the b.s posts about hair with 10m likes. Yes Origin has public message boards but the volunteers on there are so far removed from the process you might as well consult a fan forum like this for the good it would do you.
Some of these snyd comments from former community managers is bordering on the naiive. I imagine they will have a solution lined up but if they haven't and they are going to rely on twitter and reddit for bugs & technical feedback even with highly advanced sorting algorithms this is a trainwreck waiting to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2016 11:05:37 GMT -8
The first function of any forums is technical customer support. They are a crucial link in the construction of patches and for multiplayer balancing. You can't provide customer support from twitter. Imagine having to post critical bug reports to reddit amid the b.s posts about hair with 10m likes. Yes Origin has public message boards but the volunteers on there are so far removed from the process you might as well consult a fan forum like this for the good it would do you. Some of these snyd comments from former community managers is bordering on the naive. I imagine they will have a solution lined up but if they haven't and they are going to rely on twitter and reddit for bugs & technical feedback even with highly advanced sorting algorithms this is a trainwreck waiting to happen. I will agree with that, and add on that maybe they are just relying on other forms of social media (and people knowing how to use them effectively) to gather information.
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Post by helios969 on Aug 1, 2016 12:24:32 GMT -8
The first function of any forums is technical customer support. They are a crucial link in the construction of patches and for multiplayer balancing. You can't provide customer support from twitter. Imagine having to post critical bug reports to reddit amid the b.s posts about hair with 10m likes. Yes Origin has public message boards but the volunteers on there are so far removed from the process you might as well consult a fan forum like this for the good it would do you. Some of these snyd comments from former community managers is bordering on the naiive. I imagine they will have a solution lined up but if they haven't and they are going to rely on twitter and reddit for bugs & technical feedback even with highly advanced sorting algorithms this is a trainwreck waiting to happen. Hmmm, I didn't even consider that. How the hell are they going to track glitches and bugs and whatnot when problems do arise? I'm not a tweeter so I have no idea how that stuff works, but it seems unlikely that's a good way to track game issues. Or am I wrong? Not to mention how are they going to disseminate fixes and workarounds outside of patches? Or are they going to tweet that and assume every player will have access to that? That's kind of a big concern since games rarely play bug free.
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Post by KaiserShep on Aug 1, 2016 14:55:36 GMT -8
The first function of any forums is technical customer support. They are a crucial link in the construction of patches and for multiplayer balancing. You can't provide customer support from twitter. Imagine having to post critical bug reports to reddit amid the b.s posts about hair with 10m likes. Yes Origin has public message boards but the volunteers on there are so far removed from the process you might as well consult a fan forum like this for the good it would do you. Some of these snyd comments from former community managers is bordering on the naiive. I imagine they will have a solution lined up but if they haven't and they are going to rely on twitter and reddit for bugs & technical feedback even with highly advanced sorting algorithms this is a trainwreck waiting to happen. I didn't really give this a lot of thought, but despite what people might think of Original BSN, it was a pretty solid fixture that players were familiar with, and it cultivated a strong user base that reported things regularly. I'm tellin' you man. I got a bad feeling about this drop.
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Post by monk on Aug 1, 2016 15:08:59 GMT -8
The first function of any forums is technical customer support. They are a crucial link in the construction of patches and for multiplayer balancing. You can't provide customer support from twitter. Imagine having to post critical bug reports to reddit amid the b.s posts about hair with 10m likes. Yes Origin has public message boards but the volunteers on there are so far removed from the process you might as well consult a fan forum like this for the good it would do you. Some of these snyd comments from former community managers is bordering on the naiive. I imagine they will have a solution lined up but if they haven't and they are going to rely on twitter and reddit for bugs & technical feedback even with highly advanced sorting algorithms this is a trainwreck waiting to happen. I didn't really give this a lot of thought, but despite what people might think of Original BSN, it was a pretty solid fixture that players were familiar with, and it cultivated a strong user base that reported things regularly. I'm tellin' you man. I got a bad feeling about this drop. It's possible they might setup forums only for technical support on current games. Once a game has moved on, they nuke the board. Another possibility is Tumblr, which is actually quite powerful in this respect compared to Twitter, though this wouldn't be better with the boards as issues would technically stick around long after BioWare/EA would like them.
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Post by Silcron on Aug 2, 2016 8:45:20 GMT -8
It feels like Bioware has been slowly falling through the last years. For me it was Inquisition. ME2 depiste not helping hte plot of the trilogy is a blast, DA2 has a lot of cut corners but they worked so you'd enjoyed it despite that (it worked and works for me), ME3 is a bad plot well executed (in the sense that game mechanics, scenes, the personal moments...were there, but the plot just couldn't be saved.) Then Inquisition just didn't have that, the gameplay wasn't all that fun, the side content was boring, the plot while not the worst was not executed well, specially in terms of pacing.
Then they went almos silent about anything new, we still have little to no info on MEA that doens't come from theories or supposed leaks, now they nuke BSN. I'm wondering if Bioware is just going to be done, completely, after MEA, or rather, SWTOR, I can imagine EA keeping the Bioware name for that team while the rest of Bioware is laid off and even then, as much as I like the SWTOR, it's in this odd place that is the only piece of Legends that is still going on (for those who don't know. Revan and Rakata Prime are canon, but the old stories are not, probably because there's a new canon KotOR in the works, or planned if I can speculate.) What I mean, is that I wouldn't be surprised if the DA and ME studios get shut down after MEA and once the current storyline in SWTOR is done that game and the studio, will be done too, or at least as Bioware (I can see full EA assimilation happening.)
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Post by SKAR on Aug 2, 2016 14:49:20 GMT -8
I think BioWare is probably just going to be dissolved and absorbed into other EA studios within the next year. Dragon Age seems to be no more, the new IP is nothing at this point, they recently canceled a title after several years of development, MEA could very well be vaporware since they've shown practically nothing after almost 4 years of development, and now they're removing the central pillar of the BioWare fan community. All this remains to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 19:13:49 GMT -8
How? Twitter is no place for constructive feedback. Neither is Tumblr. And the Mass Effect subreddit is just an image dump for cosplay and merch collections. Actually theres alot of content at Reddit.
The fact remains times have changed its 2016 and not 2009. Social Media has changed everything.
I also have a feeling they will release a forum for Andromeda.
The forums are a mere shadow of what they were and are basically a toxic cesspool. For every valid complaint, there was just hate/negativity for the sake of it.
Times have changed. The climate has changed. It happens.
But that said I think its going overboard predicting BioWare's End. They're polishing Andromeda, They have that new IP. And there have been hints that DA4 is in development. More often than not, people see only what they want to see. Some people claim that Diablo 4 will be announced at Blizzcon this year simply because of a shifty-looking pair of dice included in the Blizzcon goodie bag. And let's not forget the infamous Dol rune conspiracy (which was several years off in its prediction btw).
Said it before and I'll say it again: Bioware got themselves to blame with the whole BSN fiasco. The shocking lack of proper moderation is what turned it into a cesspit of decay. Yeah there would still be arguments, but tangible moderator presence would be an effective deterrent. Yet they let those argument threads fester and multiply and the more they multiplied, the more toxic everyone became.
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Post by iakus on Aug 2, 2016 20:13:47 GMT -8
Frankly, I think the reason they gave for closing the forum was a lot more honest than some want to credit, they simply don't see any more benefit for them. They don't want to have to deal with the forums anymore, which they associate primarily with the incredible backlash of negativity that seems to come with each game release. And because the devs don't interact with fans there, they don't view it as an important communication channel. A stupid decision, but quit your doomsaying, there's no indication that Bioware is failing or that EA management is at all involved in this, aside from keeping a lid on their marketing for the sake of other games. And as someone pointed out on the soon-to-be-annulled forum, the real irony would be if MEA turns out to be awesome, and there's no official forum for people to sing its praises.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2016 20:32:42 GMT -8
Frankly, I think the reason they gave for closing the forum was a lot more honest than some want to credit, they simply don't see any more benefit for them. They don't want to have to deal with the forums anymore, which they associate primarily with the incredible backlash of negativity that seems to come with each game release. And because the devs don't interact with fans there, they don't view it as an important communication channel. A stupid decision, but quit your doomsaying, there's no indication that Bioware is failing or that EA management is at all involved in this, aside from keeping a lid on their marketing for the sake of other games. And as someone pointed out on the soon-to-be-annulled forum, the real irony would be if MEA turns out to be awesome, and there's no official forum for people to sing its praises. I like for the game to be great. I believe it will do well. Time will answer that. If they're going to open a new forum just for the game, they have plenty of time. Of course a lot folks who were on bsn may not join worried that Bioware will shut it down like they are with the current one. Or not join just to spite them. Of course this forum and the other one that is similiar, will have numerous threads that will say if the game is great or not. So Bioware has no reason to create a forum for MEA
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