|
Post by yolobastien on Jul 30, 2016 16:43:29 GMT -8
The people that left were writers iirc, and Bioware has said that all they are doing with the game is polishing. So that does not worry me so much since I assume the story and all is done. They've lost editors, animators, lead writers , and a director as well. And all signs point to the lead writer of MEA leaving some time last Fall. Yeah, that probably means that the same team will not be working on another Mass Effect game. Who knows, EA might disband Bioware sooner rather than later. This could be the last Mass Effect. The next one will be FifaField or TitanFront in collaboration with other EA minions
|
|
|
Post by Heimdall on Jul 30, 2016 16:50:35 GMT -8
Why are people so eager to declare the end is nigh?
|
|
|
Post by golddragon on Jul 30, 2016 16:53:26 GMT -8
Because the End REALLY is Nigh? (/joke)
Seriously, I don't know why the Doom & Gloom. Other than the Shutdown of the Original Forums....
|
|
|
Post by Heimdall on Jul 30, 2016 16:57:59 GMT -8
Because the End REALLY is Nigh? (/joke) Seriously, I don't know why the Doom & Gloom. Other than the Shutdown of the Original Forums.... That's fine, but from a business standpoint the forums running or not running really isn't very significant, representing only a tiny portion of the fanbase. I love the forums, but it really doesn't indicate very much about the company except that they don't see the forums as useful to them for whatever reason.
|
|
sartoz
Junior Member
Morpheus: "know what happened happened and that it could not have happened in any other way".
Posts: 53
|
Post by sartoz on Jul 30, 2016 17:36:13 GMT -8
<<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>>
ME:E will be out in 2017. That is according to the EA CEO Andrew Wilson. His slide presentation showed that for FY 17 the following games are to be launched. . Mirror's Edge Catalyst . Fifa 17 . NHL 17 . NBA Live . Madden 17 . Battlefield 1 . Titanfall 2 . Mass Effect Andromeda
It is understandable that EA needs to focus their marketing efforts to those games that actually are scheduled for the 2016 release date... most in the fall. Thus a October-November 2016 ME:A announcement video/ trailer is conceivable. I can't get myself to think N7 Day is the day.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2016 17:41:30 GMT -8
I really don't think anything is happening with BW as a studio. They have a very profitable game on SW:TOR and a EA flagship IP on Mass Effect. The decision of closing the forums is a classic manuever of marketing/social media guys trying to control the feedback they get.
|
|
sartoz
Junior Member
Morpheus: "know what happened happened and that it could not have happened in any other way".
Posts: 53
|
Post by sartoz on Jul 30, 2016 18:07:04 GMT -8
Because the End REALLY is Nigh? (/joke) Seriously, I don't know why the Doom & Gloom. Other than the Shutdown of the Original Forums.... <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> From the Tweet Forum, Bio is always excited about something concerning ME:A. Then the sudden BSN forum closure news. An understandable reaction.
|
|
|
Post by steppenwolf on Jul 30, 2016 19:19:27 GMT -8
But they specifically said it's about interacting with devs and didn't even mention fans interacting with each other except in forum posts. But those posts are contradictory and, quite frankly, stupid. The actual reason behind the closure is clearly not what they're saying. If the reason they gave was legitimate then they wouldn't be having such a hard time explaining it. Exactly, they talked about interacting with devs because that was the purpose of the forum as far as they were concerned. Without that, they aren't interested in maintaining it. That, and the forums tend to play host to some of the most vicious fan reactions that send Bioware devs to therapy, apparently. This is a selfish decision on their part that completely discounts the benefits of maintaining the fan community. I think that because they spend so little time on the forums, they assumed the forums were of minimal importance to maintaining the fanbase at large. But if that were the reasoning behind it then they would have closed the forums in 2012, when the ending debacle was in full swing and the devs stopped coming to the forums altogether for months.
|
|
|
Post by steppenwolf on Jul 30, 2016 19:21:17 GMT -8
Why are people so eager to declare the end is nigh? Because there's a laundry list of behind-the-scenes problems and now a very public problem. Other studios are creating forums like the BSN for their fans, but BioWare is closing theirs down even though it's been a part of their DNA for 15 years.
|
|
Syn
Forum Moderator
Posts: 10
Origin: RoboArigatou
|
Post by Syn on Jul 30, 2016 19:22:42 GMT -8
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried for Bioware. At least now. I had always been optimistic for Andromeda during my earlier time on BSN, treating negative or cynical threads flippantly, and blindly believing Bioware/Andromeda was in no danger.
It really wasn't until they(?) announced the imminent shutdown - of not just the Andromeda subforum - but the entirety of BSN itself, that I started second guessing. I mean, maybe it's nothing. Maybe Bioware really just wants to "move on." Of course, there's also the possibility that this is serious. That Andromeda is up for cancellation. That Bioware is up for execution. EA could be ready to cut them all off. Just like they did with Maxis, and the dozen other development studios they kicked out.
I don't know. After all those Bioware employees leaving, Andromeda getting delayed like a whole year... I'm going to hold out hope for ME:A, but the Bioware we originally knew has definitely changed. For better or worse.
|
|
|
Post by linksocarina on Jul 30, 2016 19:24:44 GMT -8
Quoting Hanlon: '"Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice" I think the holding back of information is simply down to EA marketing not wanting the releases of Battlefield 1 and Titanfall 2 to be interfered with (Oct 21 and 28 respectively). I'm not worried about people leaving (that happens) and information withheld (for the other releases). More foolish is the abandonment of the BSN. They may view it as a toxic source, but it's a poor marketing call. I don't think it's a conspiracy suggesting the game is pants, just marketing not having to worry about 'BSN at its worst'. The Occam's Razor answer basically. And one that makes sense, plus managing expectations for the press and fanbase as much as possible. People tend to overhype as it is.
|
|
sartoz
Junior Member
Morpheus: "know what happened happened and that it could not have happened in any other way".
Posts: 53
|
Post by sartoz on Jul 30, 2016 20:02:22 GMT -8
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little worried for Bioware. At least now. I had always been optimistic for Andromeda during my earlier time on BSN, treating negative or cynical threads flippantly, and blindly believing Bioware/Andromeda was in no danger. It really wasn't until they(?) announced the imminent shutdown - of not just the Andromeda subforum - but the entirety of BSN itself, that I started second guessing. I mean, maybe it's nothing. Maybe Bioware really just wants to "move on." Of course, there's also the possibility that this is serious. That Andromeda is up for cancellation. That Bioware is up for execution. EA could be ready to cut them all off. Just like they did with Maxis, and the dozen other development studios they kicked out. I don't know. After all those Bioware employees leaving, Andromeda getting delayed like a whole year... I'm going to hold out hope for ME:A, but the Bioware we originally knew has definitely changed. For better or worse. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to remain an optimist. The game will come out, so said Wilson the CEO of EA during his slide presentation in May, 2016. There is another one scheduled for AUG 2, 2016.... That one I'll be really interested in.
|
|
sartoz
Junior Member
Morpheus: "know what happened happened and that it could not have happened in any other way".
Posts: 53
|
Post by sartoz on Jul 30, 2016 20:08:56 GMT -8
Quoting Hanlon: '"Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice" I think the holding back of information is simply down to EA marketing not wanting the releases of Battlefield 1 and Titanfall 2 to be interfered with (Oct 21 and 28 respectively). I'm not worried about people leaving (that happens) and information withheld (for the other releases). More foolish is the abandonment of the BSN. They may view it as a toxic source, but it's a poor marketing call. I don't think it's a conspiracy suggesting the game is pants, just marketing not having to worry about 'BSN at its worst'. The Occam's Razor answer basically. And one that makes sense, plus managing expectations for the press and fanbase as much as possible. People tend to overhype as it is. <<<<<<<<<<(0)>>>>>>>>>> True about people allowing themselves to get hyped. However, Bio mngrs are partly to blame as well. I'm convinced that a dev diary about the development of the game goes a long way to reassure the fans that the game is progressing. No need to hype it at all. After all, do you honestly believe that their target audience stands by Twitter Mon-Fri to read ME:A tweets? Those that do are a small percentage anyway, imo.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:19:44 GMT -8
Every videogame company has official forums. Some people said that messageboards are outdated and other social networking tools are on the rise. But I just looked. I went to Ubisoft, I went to CDPR. All of them still have online forums. And they're not necessarily for developer-to-fan interaction. They simply exist, for fans and consumers at large to ask questions and talk.
So this is becoming more and more concerning to me. Why is Bioware suddenly so weird? Has it always been weird? Has this community always been literally the weirdest in the entire videogame industry? What is going on and who am I?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 0:34:18 GMT -8
Conspiracy theories of all kinds are most of the time BS, but sometimes they hit close to the truth. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
So really if you ask me, I dont know, and i dont presume to know. What the future brings is what will be.
|
|