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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2016 23:20:07 GMT -8
*sighs*As a gay man who's never looked at the ladies that way, I was sure taken aback at how attracted I felt towards Samara near the conclusion of my initial ME2 playthrough. Voiced by the awesome Maggie Baird, and brought to life by the magically stunning Rana McAnear, Samara is one of the most memorable characters in the Mass Effect universe. Powerful and mysterious, strong and resolute, Samara is a frequent battle companion. But it's our talks in the Starboard Observation Deck that I most looked forward to, and I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised and highly amused when the conversation took a rather unexpected turn near the end. While I was certainly disappointed to the lack of a proper romance (further made worse in the Citadel DLC), looking back I have to admit I'm glad it didn't happen. The teasy experience leaves you wanting more and sends your imagination into overdrive. And the outcome in our minds is certainly far better than anything Bioware would've come up with (ain't dat the godamn truth!). Her path of life is not one for the faint-hearted and I don't know how many players truly "get" her. But I sure do. Do you?
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Aug 2, 2016 3:13:03 GMT -8
Post by The Redhead Commander on Aug 2, 2016 3:13:03 GMT -8
She's awesome. I like how she always maintains a straight face that never falters.
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Aug 2, 2016 3:52:38 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 3:52:38 GMT -8
She's awesome. I like how she always maintains a straight face that never falters. Sure faltered when my Shep "pressed the issue". And later Kasumi made a crack about Samara practically flattening people when she stormed out.
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Aug 2, 2016 5:34:39 GMT -8
Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 5:34:39 GMT -8
I see Samara as the classic "lone wolf" warrior... a person who changed a lot from the carefree person she hints at having been in her younger days after her children were "diagnosed" as being ardat-yakshi.
I've seen IRL parents affected in much the same way when their children have been diagnosed with a permanently disabling condition. Of course, the premise is different with Samara in that her life-long fight is different than most activist parents... most of them do start to fight for things to facilitate an easier life for their children rather than starting to hunt them down to kill them. As a result, I sometimes will have my Shepard side with Morinth... although I will then "arrange" to have Morinth die during the Suicide Mission. If my Shepard doesn't side with Morinth, I seldom attempt to romance Samara and will often just avoid doing the last conversation with her completely. The one Shepard I role play that will try to romance her is generally a Spacer who "idolizes" his/her mother and is attracted to Samara on that level... and, in that instance, Samara is quite justified in blowing him/her off - Renegade).
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Aug 2, 2016 8:21:19 GMT -8
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Post by opuspace on Aug 2, 2016 8:21:19 GMT -8
I've seen IRL parents affected in much the same way when their children have been diagnosed with a permanently disabling condition. Of course, the premise is different with Samara in that her life-long fight is different than most activist parents... most of them do start to fight for things to facilitate an easier life for their children rather than starting to hunt them down to kill them. As a result, I sometimes will have my Shepard side with Morinth... although I will then "arrange" to have Morinth die during the Suicide Mission. - Renegade). This makes me wonder about parents whose kids become mass murderers or serial killers or know that their kids are diagnosed with sociopathy. What do you do when your own children harmed others and will continue doing so? Makes me wish we could hear more as to why Samara felt the need to kill Morinth herself. Maybe it was a Mice or Men moment? A sense of responsibility to the victims? That's a dramatic reaction though. Another thing I wonder about is whether Justicars are funded by their own organization for food, hygiene and sleep. We know ship captains give them free transportation but what about taking care of personal needs? Justicars need to eat, need to sleep and shower on occasion. That job has to be so awkward, walking around in armor you've worn for several days, carrying a gun that ran out of ammo a long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2016 10:13:56 GMT -8
I've seen IRL parents affected in much the same way when their children have been diagnosed with a permanently disabling condition. Of course, the premise is different with Samara in that her life-long fight is different than most activist parents... most of them do start to fight for things to facilitate an easier life for their children rather than starting to hunt them down to kill them. As a result, I sometimes will have my Shepard side with Morinth... although I will then "arrange" to have Morinth die during the Suicide Mission. - Renegade). This makes me wonder about parents whose kids become mass murderers or serial killers or know that their kids are diagnosed with sociopathy. What do you do when your own children harmed others and will continue doing so? Makes me wish we could hear more as to why Samara felt the need to kill Morinth herself. Maybe it was a Mice or Men moment? A sense of responsibility to the victims? That's a dramatic reaction though. Another thing I wonder about is whether Justicars are funded by their own organization for food, hygiene and sleep. We know ship captains give them free transportation but what about taking care of personal needs? Justicars need to eat, need to sleep and shower on occasion. That job has to be so awkward, walking around in armor you've worn for several days, carrying a gun that ran out of ammo a long time ago. Yeah, Samara's characterization has also made me wonder about that as well. I have no experience knowing any parents whose child was diagnosed as a sociopath, so I really don't know whether some might tend to undertake a sense of responsibility towards their child's victims. I do think, though, that the Samara character was written in such a way that it's definitely possible to think that's what may have motivated her. Her giving up all her property to the organization she decided to follow sort of smacks of a cult organization. The game also implies that Justicars seldom leave Asari space and also portrays the Asari as being very respectful and supportive of them... so it may just be that, among the Asari, Justicars really only have to just ask for whatever they need whenever they need it and other Asari will just donate it to them.
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Post by opuspace on Aug 2, 2016 11:38:17 GMT -8
@upupandaway I have been told by a friend (who's not a parent of one) that sociopathy does not necessarily mean they'll be cruel by default. That it is possible for some to be caring enough about others even if they lack the empathy to understand what someone else is going through. I do know there are functional sociopaths who will work towards a goal that benefits others; they're just not going to weep if it doesn't work out. e.g. they'll stop an invasion from hitting a planet but if the natives die, they'll immediately plant a flag before others can claim the resources. That does sound like Justicars are similar to Buddhists monks who are dependent on the generosity of others. I just figured all the stuff they give away goes into funding for armor, weapons and training. I mean it's hard to keep an organization going if you look like a hobo getting involved in other people's business. I'm probably overthinking it.
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Aug 15, 2016 12:55:16 GMT -8
Post by natureguy85 on Aug 15, 2016 12:55:16 GMT -8
Samara is a crazy person who deserves to be in jail, but so are certain Shepards. She kills a defenseless merc, though she was a murderer herself. But remember that it's heavily implied that Samara would kill Detective Anaya and other police officers to escape confinement. But then she offers to do whatever Shepard wants, only with a promise that she'll kill him later if she makes her do something bad... ok. That said, the voice actress does do a fantastic job. Also, the "lack of proper romance" is actually perfect for her character. She's been through a lot and isn't ready to open up to this guy who just solved her life's mission. Also, as a minor point, I would call Morinth a psychopath rather than a sociopath. www.webmd.com/mental-health/features/sociopath-psychopath-difference
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